Was Michael Jackson Gay, Straight, Or Bisexual?
The mainstream news organizations have published articles about Michael Jackson’s confusion over his racial identity, finances, and the incendiary child abuse allegations.
However, was Michael Jackson gay, bisexual, or straight?
What do you think? I think Michael Jackson was a very complex, depressed, and confused man.
I also think that Michael Jackson resented his African American features in favour of European features.
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It does appear to me that what dominated MJs life was fear and self hatred, his homosexuality being a major part of that. I wish that things could have been better for him, I cant help but think if he could have come to accept himself we might still have a much healthier MJ alive today. But if there is a lesson to be learned it should be that we should all love ourselves first and that may show compasion towards others so that they may also come to love and respect themselves.
HE WAS NOT GAY.
You are part of the reason Michael couldnt come out JACOBKNOWS
I voted “I am uncertain if Michael was straight, gay or bisexual.”
He was clearly and visibly “transgendered” to quite a significant degree. That doesn’t have to mean he wanted to be female. That doesn’t have mean he wasn’t sexually attracted to women – or wasn’t exclusively attracted to women. A “queer” man can be “straight”.
When the police searched Neverland they found porn magazines and dvd’s which were reported as being all heterosexual in nature.
I really doubt that he was homosexual. If not heterosexual then bisexual seems more likely. I also think it’s quite possible that he was mostly autosexual in practice and only had sex with other people when the other person initiated it.
That was my general impression, until I read Halparin’s book about Michael being gay. Now I’m not really sure.
Ian Halperin is a fraud, please I hope no one in their right mind would actually believe the BS from that man.
“Ian is no stranger to writing questionable and unsubstantiated material, and has been doing so since the 1980s when he was still a student reporter. In 1984, an athletic director at his college filed a $100,000 libel suit against him and another writer for making multiple allegations of improper conduct within the university’s athletic department. Ian was later criminally charged with providing false testimony and lying under oath in the civil case after three different sources denied providing him with any of the information he claimed they had. Ian fled Canada to avoid criminal prosecution and remained in Great Britain for 2.5 years before returning to face the court. In 1990, the judge in the case said he was forced to close it due to a lack of corroborating evidence presented by the prosecution, although Ian did serve time in jail for fleeing the country.”
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Good Answer.
They never found anything like that.I never had any of that you said.Geri,get a life or get some true facts about me.Watch interviews on YouTube or something and get true facts about me.I never had any porn or anything like that.
I totally agree with you. Just blogged about Michael hating his own race and sexual orientation. It’s a shame such a handsome, talented guy like him ended up wasting away in total denial.
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LONG LIVE THE KING OF POP!!! I THINK EVERYONE NEEDS TO GET THEIR SH** RIGHT!! MJ WAS PERFECTLY NORMAL AND I’M ONE THE MANY DEDICATED FANS OF HIS. HE’S OUR IDOL AND WE LOVE HIM VERY MUCH. SO, PLEASE TRY AND HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR HIM!!!! LOVE YOU MJ FOREVER!!! :))
HOORAY FOR MICHAEL 😀
Michael is not even gay.
Hes more bisexual or asexual.
and he had a skin diease and he bleached his skin to match the skin with the blotches.
He was a kid trapped in a adults mind.
He was always shy when the topic “sex” comes with him”
asexual means to reproduce with yourself…
and he was a kid trapped in an adult’s BODY…
Your wrong, asexual means not to have sexual feeling towards anyone.
Michael was a normal hot blooded male who enjoyed the company of women. Lisa Marie has talked publicly about the hot sex life she enjoyed with MJ. Leave the man alone! The only thing strange about Michael was the way people treated him.
I believe Michael was straight. Like Prince, the musician, he enjoyed being able to accentuate his style of dress. However, he was not trying to be a woman. I read a comment about Prince that read: “he is above sexuality”. I believe in what the Bible says regarding people like both Prince and Micheal. Individuals likened to them who have died, (those that are peculiar to most) will be brought back in the resurrection. They will be like angels.- MATTHEW 22:30 SAYS: for in the resurrection neither do men marry, nor are women given in marriage, but they are like the angels in heaven. This scripture helps us to appreciate that BEING LIKE THE ANGELS IN HEAVEN, shows that there will be those resurrected on a restored paradisaic EARTH, and not everyone has a heavenly hope,(heavenly resurrection). A cross reference to this scripture is Luke 20:35. What this means, is that they (male or female) won’t have a desire for sex at all. Some term this disposition as being Asexual,such as can be likened to the holy angels in heaven. In this since, they are ABOVE SEXUALITY. However, Prince, the musician, seems to have a sexual desire for women. Even though his dress sometimes accentuate that of a female. He also seems effeminate at times, although this in itself doesn’t mean that he is homosexual. I have both male and female friends who enjoy wearing clothes designed for the opposite sex for various reasons. The females feel that men shoes, underwear, and shirts are more comfortable. The men like wearing head scarves to keep their hair groomed. Some men like to accesorize their outfits by wearing scarves. Some men wear two earrings. Some wear mascara to highlight their eyes, customs and etc. Although women tend to “get away with” wearing men clothing that are viewed as strickly masculine, males who wear articles that are viewed as strickly feminine are given names such as; gay, homosexual, sissified, and etc…. I don’t believe Michael allowed the world to “brand” him with a characterization that they thought would fit him. To me he carried himself as a straight male who appreciated femininity without apologizing for it. Most gays to me tend to apologize for appreciate femininity by letting the world “brand” them, so to speak. Wearing a type of clothing doesn’t make someone a homosexual, although this is the perception. Having sexual relations with men is what is called homosexuality. So, I believe that Prince and Michael both, has made dynamic statements without saying a word!
What is so very wonderful about Prince’s and Michael’s style of dress, is that it is not so feminine after all, compared to some of non-American countries. In Bible times, the early Christians, and many middle-eastern countries, men still wear what we here in America call dresses. I know you’re familiar with the adage, ‘when in Rome, do what the Romans do.’ However, some feel stumbled in American culture, to see a man in a dress, due more to the issue of morality. Again, the perception is, when our culture sees a man in a dress, is either he’s a transexual, gay, or etc . . . However, wearing clothing to pass oneself off as one of the opposite sex can be deadly. It could pose a security risk. If not revealed to your potential mate that you are one of the same sex is wrong, and demoralizing. They deserve the right to be informed as to what they CHOOSE to do with their own bodies.
Angels don’t need sex but human do to procreate and for pleasure. However Michael Jackson was a weirdo with Christ complex who hadn’t yet reached christ consciousness. All in all trying to be something he wasn’t-EGO! Angels are of Christ consciousness or higher forms of consciousness and sex pales in comparison to the ecstacy, bliss and euphoria they experience at their advanced levels of refined spiritual consciousness! 🙂
Michael wasn’t “a weirdo”. That is only a label you assigned him with your ignorance and “ego” of your own.
Thank You Grim!
I really dont care.. Now that we talk about him in the past tense. remember he was a fantastic entertainer and remember him for his art!!!
what do we remember about Leonardo Davinci 500 years after his death? Its his wonderful art he left behind and not his flamboyant lifestyle!
I cannot believe how people are ignorant. Michael was never ashamed of his race, of being black. First:Have you ever seen any black person with vitiligo- skin disorder? You can watch it over you tube.
Why everyone believes what people write about famous stars, I always want to hear it from stars themselfs what they have to say about different topics. You can also watch his interview with Oprah in 1993, he explains a lot what tabloids made up about him. So what if he wanted to have children with a woman but not have sex with her. He WAsn’t attracted to her, but he really wanted to have children. How many woman are having children on their own, because they don’t find the right partner in their lives, that doesn’t mean that they are gay. And even if Michael was gay, who cares, we love him for his music, for his art.
I am really sad that WORLD had recognised his work only after his death.
Well said, is what if he’s gay? his music rocks and he could dance like whoa – nuff sed.
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Thank you.
Half the people who even NOW claim to like him only know one or two songs of his though :(…
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I totally agree. I think him being a closeted homosexual would explain his unhappiness which was manifested in his many plastic surgeries, his drug addiction, and isolation. He was miserable. He could have had a different woman every night, but did not. The sequined military jacket, the makeup, the hair-yeah he was gay-I know all gay men do not fall into this stereotype.
And he played the role of straight man with two marriages and may have even had sex with them. Gay people do pretend to be straight. He obviously thought it would hurt his career, and who knows, it might have, which is sad. As for hating being black, I think that is complex. His father teased him about his nose, a feature that is associated with race. His father is to blame for that.
Is this your theory or do you actually have reliable sources that support what you have said?
To add to this, This does seem to be your theory, but I have a believe that Michael Jackson was probably Asexual. My only evidence for this comes from me. I am an Asexual man, I like Michael have a semi-high voice, tend to be very skinny, and have a problem with my appearance. I like to change my appearance, and in part, I think this has to do with my sexual frustration. I was once heavily sexually active, and I was entirely straight. However, when my sexual desires disappeared around the time I tend 18 I turned into an effeminate man, who hates growing old. I think partially this has to do with the fact that I can’t get a girlfriend or find love (Michael always insisted he was in search of love), because I can’t have sex, so it is very hard for me to get someone to stay around for long.
Now don’t get me entirely wrong, I have no clue about Michael Jackson’s personal life, but I can tell you about mine and how it’s like being asexual in some ways. I can get an erection and I can ejaculate (if you are wondering), so I suppose I could have children some day. However, I have no desire whatsoever to have sex with anyone. I believe Michael Jackson had said that too once. So it is my belief he was Asexual.
By the way, there are a lot of mechanisms that control sexuality in the body, one of them is the mind. If your mind has no desire for sex your body will lose it. In addition, I believe but am not sure whether I suffered trauma to my testicles, this could also lead to the loss of sex drive. I lost my desire for sex after being heavily isolated from society for a long time, I also grew dissociated with the world, and I became obsessed with my appearance. Every once in while I will get my sex drive back but it takes a lot of work and it is never the same.
People who like him only know 2 of his songs? What closet have you been living in? Did you see his funeral on tv? It was the second most watched funeral. Diana was first. Did you know the computers went waco when he died from everyone looking him up? Did you see all the people crying on Tv? They called him the King of Pop for a reason. And he had hundreds of songs, many many hits. Pull your head out.
I strongly belive that Michael was bisexual. He could be asexual too.
I don’t know. Though, I think his sexual orientation was questionable…I don’t know what to believe.
As a female who was attracted to other women, it there was everything I learned from the LGBT Community, “what looks, walks, and talks like a duck is a duck” doesn’t always apply. Though, some people may engage in homosexual acts, they made not “identify” as gay or bisexual.
I do believe he was relatively happy in his first marriage. However, the second one was questionable.
I think he is straight. Ever heard about Prince? or glam rock? or Visual Kei in Japan? They dress up like girls, they are make up, but they’re undoubtedly straight. But who cares, only the person can know if he is a homosexual or not. The term ‘closet gay’ is an offensive term for straight males.
ok why when he’s dead all of a sudden he’s gay
secret kept for so long please, he’s famous, would have been public already it’s all rumours anyways so many peolpe dressed up like him and immitated him for a long time
get a life people
Brownie, maybe you don´t know that but Michael suffered gay rumors almost his entire life,it began sensibly in the 70’s.
Ok he was famous but some people believe in the girlfriends his personal bodyguards said he had, though nobody saw them…people believes on what they want.
About his sexuality,honestly I don´t know. But I have to admit, sometimes I wonder…
I think it´s strange the way Joe acted when a journalist asked him if Michael was gay. It look liked he was hit a nerve…many fans would say “oh of course, Mike wasn´t gay, just normal his father get angry…” Fine, but he even banned the man! And Joe is very homophobic! He said that he didn´t believe in gays…
And for God´s sake, how can a straight man have so many gay rumors almost his entire life, even before he changed his face structure and getting that androgynous air?!
I think Ian Halperin is just mad MJ did not want to lick his lollipop
I’ve gone back and forth on this one for a while. I thought he was asexual and now I’m thinking he was more heterosexual or bi by nature but lived much of his life celibate. His marriage to Lisa Marie by her account was legitimate, w/ a healthy sex life, and she has always been frank about the problems she had w/ him, so why lie about that? I do believe he truly loved Diana Ross as more than a mother figure.
Youtube has phone conversations between MJ and a female friend from 1992 that were supposedly used during the trial to establish that he was interested in relationships w/ women. During these calls he expressed a real desire for a hetero relationship but didn’t want to have sex until marriage. I think he had a v. hard time establishing relationships and this includes romantic ones. Youtube them and listen, they are compelling.
As for his phys. changes, aside from vitiligo/lupus, he clearly had difficulty establishing a firm identity – so it changed constantly. I think there was a great deal of self hatred, stemming not only from his father’s criticisms but his own feelings of “badness”. His skin change reflected his difficulty accepting himself as is, not (to me) discomfort w/ being Afr. American. He over & over expressed pride in black culture through his words and music.
Tragic how arguably the most talented entertainer ever never, ever felt he was good enough. The lesson here, among many, is to take care of each other, each other’s souls, really. His was so damaged very early on and it never healed.
Lisa could have said the truth, but if the marriage really was a sham, of curse she wouldn´t admit that. It would be a shame for her!
No, he was either straight of bisexual. He was deeply unhappy, but not because of denying his sexuality. According to some people he did have gay flings, but then there’s also the Omer and Pia thing where Omer is his alleged child..Michael said it himself, he feels most comfortable being on stage. Off stage he’s shy and nervous, because as he’s said, everything away from performing is foregin to him and he once said how friendships were new to him. That’s so sad. I wish he had been able to do the normal childhood things we take for granted. Like having friends that aren’t your siblings…
Michael had no respect for himself. He had a huge heart and loved people, his family, his fans…he knew his fans loved him so genuinely and when he hugs them on stage, sometimes dancing with a woman, bowing to her..it’s all very natural, very real. So because he felt most comfortable on stage, I think everything he shows is pretty much the real Michael. The sexuality on stage is himself, too. He said he wished he could sleep on stage.
So the Michael outside of perorming is someone he obviously doesn’t feel as comfortable in the skin of because he didn’t get much experience growing up being ‘non -performing Michael’ the deemed bizarre traits the tabloids showed where broken, fragmented pieces of Michael that was merely his turmoil and depression, of being the Michael outside the performer. For some reason, as a child, I don’t think he was taught to respect himself and to love, respect and accept himself. Perhaps even if Katherine tried to teach Michael this, Joe ruined it with his constant critisims about Michael’s appearance, calling him ugly and “Big Nose” and Michael got teased about his acne a lot. Body Dysmorphic Syndrome says that the main hatred of self image is the SKIN, NOSE, and HAIR. Michael changed his skin colour to white, although he may have had vitaligo, therefore bleashign his skin to rid the blotches, or he may have not..(but i think he did) he certainly altered his nose, way too much. He had a complex about his nose and who can blame him from the emotional trauma of what his father always said to him, always called him? apparently he hated his ‘nigger’ hair. But I loved his hair. It’s sad that he suffered this body dysmorphic mental illness…sufferers can’t see themselves the same way others do. No matter how hard they try to change their appearance and look nice, they always see ugly. Disrespect for himself. I wish someone had told him he had beautiful features and they didn’t need to change because they were beautiful and they were his.
My boyfriend got his nose “fixed” when he was older, because he when he was a kid in gradeschool, a bully constantly made fun of his nose. So he developed a long-term complex about his Italian schnozz… It’s real, when people constantly criticize your looks when you are a child, they last a lifetime.
Michael was an African American and had “kinky-curly” hair that is typical of his race. He did not have ‘nigger’ hair as you say – this word is derogatory and an insult to Michael and the Black race.
na minha opinião michael, se apaixonou pela sua propria aparencia,mas ele não erá gay ele queria uma mulher que não fosse tão ousada, ele que tinha que tomar iniciativa mandar na cama.Eu ainda procuro por ele pois sei que ele não morreu.beijinho michael
I voted that I am not sure. But in the end, no one really knew what was going on with Michael but Michael. I think he was confused, probably about several things. I feel bad for him, that aspects of the mega-talented and creative man’s life were just tragic. I cry for the waste of it, the loss. Michael looked happy to me when he was with LMP. He also looked and dressed more masculine. Maybe he was more confident in himself having found love. Perhaps having a poor image kept him from getting close to other people, including women. Maybe he truly respected God and his beliefs as a JW and wanted to remain a virgin until marriage but his beliefs conflicted w/a very different way with the entertainment world. He probably met with many strange looks, especially by the women he expressed an interest in. He probably felt the pressure to conform, including the use of alcohol an drugs, too. I’ve read (comments from regular folks in forums) that he loved women and that he dated several. I choose to believe the man had vitiligo and was brave to continue with his life in the public eye in spite of having to change himself so drastically.
I wish he’d been more happy. I thank him for the great music. I love to watch him dance.
I voted that I don’t know if my beloved MJ was straight or gay. I am not sure he knew.
I wish I could have a conversation with a gay man who could help me figure the signs out.
He loved women no doubt. Diana Ross and Lisa Marie come to mind, but sex to him might not have
figured into the equation of love.He may have had sex with male dancers or musicians but no attachment would have been possible.
I just don’t know. I do know that MJ was wildly sexual on stage. When you watch him in concert, afterwards you feel you
have had sex with him. He is that explicit. But I have to say-Michael was the most famous man in the world.
If he had sex with random men we would have heard about it that is for sure.
As the years go on I am sure we will know more about MJ’s sexuality.
I suspect that all one has to do is read MJ’s lyrics and we get an incredible glimpse of a man who was in love with the idea of love.
Rarely did Michael ever write a love song without the word “GIRL” in the song.
This has made me really wonder, was he the girl he forever sang about. I don’t know.
I love him so much. In his prime, he was the most beautiful sexy man I ever saw in my life.
Perhaps Lisa Marie someday will reveal, with respect, just who he was.
are you stupid//just use your head!!!!our beloved mj is really a man with good personality and he is really good….you dont even know him….!!!!!!!!u knbow him physically but personally,emotionally,spiritually,mentally you dont know him!!!! !!!!!
umm you don’t know him either so you can’t say he is a good man with good personality… so i’m not even gonna comment
I talked with many gay men and everyone had a different opinion. Many believe he was gay, others simply didn´t knew.
Michael was “A” sexual. Both divorces ended with irreconciled differences.
Bisexual I voted. I think he was quite confused, and he had so many contradictions. It’s difficult to tell fact and fiction with him. I liked some glam rockers from the 1970s and despite the image of them – makeup and costumes – many of them were actually straight and groupie fiends. They realised that dressing up and wearing makeup actually brought them more attention from teenage girls if anything.
But with MJ, he had hardly any eperience with women until his mid thirties. Liza Minelli was married to gay performer Peter Allen, and I read a recent interview in which she insisted that they had an active sex life.
Some say that he was just indifferent to sex, and that explained his relative inexperience. His lyrics and performances don’t give much of that impression to me!
Joe Jackson has been quoted making some fairly homophobic comments, Katherine too. If I remember correctly MJ was under their influence for quite some time, not leaving home until his mid to late twenties.
Some girls who are fans of his claim the basis of their attraction to him is his sensitive, fey, reserved and ‘gentlemanly’ nature in the area of sex (they seriously insist that he is an ‘angel’ trapped in an earthly skin!) But those are also features of gay men. It’s said that Liz Taylor formed many friendships with gay men because they appreciated her for more than her looks. Many of the very young fans seem to have a very idealized, detached from reality image of him, perhaps from not being there in the era when he was most active. They think in nearly fairy tale terms.
Time and again there were rumours that MJ was taking female hormones in order to retain his high vocals. True or not is anyone’s guess (anything seems possible, if the plastic surgery is anything to go by). But what kind of physical and psychological effect would all that have on a person over a long period of time?
In MJ I see a strange mixture of self-hatred and narcissism. I know that he had Vitiligo which caused the skin colour change. But he also further anglicised his features with plastic surgery and cosmetics, and was recorded talking about how he hated his hair, using the ‘n’ word. (I’m mixed heritage myself and my hair is more the texture of my black ancestors.)
In a fan book a makeup artist told how he would ask to look ‘pale and pretty’ for photo shoots. I don’t know what kind of bizarre idealized form of beauty he was searching for in his procedures, maybe some old Hollywood type of glamour. He may not have even been that conscious himself of what it was he was rejecting and accepting in his appearance, it was anything in the name of looking how he thought he should in front of a camera.
‘The Picture of Dorian Gray’ comes up as a comparison – the 19th century fictional story of a young man who sells his soul in exchange for eternal youth and beauty.
I was a fan in the early 1980s but by the end of the decade, physical changes aside, it seemed there was a noticeable difference in the personality of the man. At the time, it was difficult to totally explain. Now it seems the most likely reason is drug abuse. That, and also his sexual identity crisis, perhaps explains how he came to make such a mess of his life.
MJ comes across to me as a very traumatized individual, but I think unfortunately he allowed himself to be a victim of circumstances too long. It’s the classic thinking of an addict. And I have had personal experience of both trauma and addiction. There are people who overcome enormous obstacles and emerge okay in adulthood, or even become better people as a result – they are motivated to help and to prevent suffering in others. MJ made steps in that direction, but it was the demons that ultimately won out, after he was beset by a series of nearly freakish events. Anyhow, I doubt we’ll see another like him, at least not for quite some time – nobody pushed themselves to the limits he did, but he paid the price. In many ways, I think it’s symbolic of the end of the silver screen era of larger than life superstars.
Not all that glitters is gold.
I loved “Elle’s” comments…. articulate, thoughtful, incisive. Michael Jackson was indeed many contradictions manifested in a supernova talent. Michael’s sexuality has always confused me. No one so aggressively sexual on stage can be “asexual” in life; sexual energy is as normal as eating and breathing. How he acted on this energy? I am inclined to think he romanticized love relationships with women, but it’s clear he was not comfortable with sexuality, or real intimacy, with women. Schmuley Boteach, MJ’s rabbi for a time, felt Michael had misogynistic tendencies.
Michael may have been naturally sexually attracted to men but so loathing of that orientation that he stayed fairly celibate. After all, he hated his hair and nose, but could do something about those traits. Plastic surgery doesn’t cure homosexual attraction.
I think if MJ had had female or male lovers we would have heard about it by now, just as everyone else seems to be crawling out of the woodwork to cash in on their five minutes of fame by association with Michael.
What I meant to say was: MJ’s incredible sexual energy probably had some outlet, but we are waiting to see with whom… it is possible that MJ had confidentiality agreements that extended to beyond the grave, so that his estate/heirs could sue anyone who actually “told all” about any sexual liaisons with Michael.
He is straight … i don’t see any evidence that he is gay or bisexual … i believe that he is straught … he is a feminine guy but not gay …
I believe Michael Jackson was a straight, Black, handsome entertainer, that reached all sectors of the populace, with his dream, through re-inventing himself, to not be rejected, in his abilities and potentials in becoming the King of Pop and humanitarian to the world. His haters simply, thought he had too much money, for a single, vibrant, youthful, Black , mega-entertainer. The only way to do it was to discredit, what the people loved so much about him; his voice, his sexuality and his child-like innocence. Also, he wouldn’t have put invasive cameras in every room of his mansion, to monitor his children at all times, being a very private person; if he abused children.
look at it straight up. michael lied about his plastic surgery. he lied about being the childrens real father, people that are hooked on drugs have to lie to get drugs .the police chief said they took out bags of kiddie porn but thats not eligle michael was getting older and anybody that danced on stage probaly needs alittle upper . to keep him going then he would have needed help getting down and to sleep
Mariah Scarey234 Saturday , August 8 , 2009 at ’23:38′ | #15 Reply | Quote I think Ian Halperin is just mad MJ did not want to lick his lollipop
i so agree with u
I miss Michael so much. Partly because I really identified with him. I am extremely shy and have a terrible time establishing an kind of relationship. As far as his sexuality, I guess there is no way of really knowing. I doubt that he was asexual. Rember they said that about Clay Aiken? and look what happened there. I think almost every healthy living person has a sex drive. The thing that makes me think that it was more likey that he was homosexual was that his marriages both seemed odd, especially the second one. If he had a normal marriage with (can’t remember her name/the blond derm nurse) then why were the kids artificialy inseminated and not with his sperm? That makes no sense if he were heterosexual. And that fact that you never saw him with another person romantically (except Lisa Marie) seemed odd and also made it seem like he was probably just ashamed of his true sexuality. When I saw him with Lisa Marie it seemed stilted and fake. I have no idea why she would like about it, maybe he did have sex with her but it seemed like it was more to appear to be hetro rather than that he was hetro. He did have a lot of the mannerisms of a gay man although of course that doesn’t necessarily mean that he was gay. I think Michael was probably very emotionally immature thanks to his awful childhood and asshole dad and that probably led to a somewhat confused sexuality. Also, there was the time when you always saw him walking around with young boys everywhere he went. That really isn’t normal for an adult male. Anyway, my thought is that he probably was mainly homosexual and maybe just a little hetro or at least wanted to be hetro. I wish he were still here. I miss him so, so much.
i think he had many issues but either the media made him do these things or he was just crazy. thats the only way to describe his antics. he had a childhood none of us wanted – father beating him and a mother not having the strength to stop it-so he was also looking for something he never had.
mj was the same person he was in his childhood-one eye-witness in jamaica said while mj was on a trip to jamaica while the other brothers were inside talking he was outside playing with animals n flowers.
Remember too, all of Michael’s siblings grew up in the same household. People deal with adversities in life differently. The other children got disciplined as well. Michael, like myself, was very sensitive, so it is very possible that HE FELT MORE BRUTALIZED THAN HIS SIBLINGS WERE BECAUSE OF HIS SENSITIVITY. Talk about growing up in a household like his. Like what? Nowadays, parents are molesting their biological and stepchildren, smoking around their kids, having the opposite-sex living in the same house without benefit of marriage, and the list goes on and on. At least they were taught moral values. Under the circumstances of Joe constantly being laid off, there was the strange of making ends meet with nine children. At least he didn’t leave his family like most (sorry) black men tend to do under severe distress. There is no doubt that Joe himself was deeply depressed at times. If only he followed the principles of fatherhood in the Bible at Deuteronomy Chapter 6, and at Ephesians chapter 6, he would have dealt with his children better. On the other hand, Katherine did.
I think Michael Jackson was either gay or bisexual I don’t believe he was straight.
Orville: As a gay black man, what about Michael makes you ultimately think he was gay or bisexual?
Hi Minou I think Michael may have been bisexual or gay because I feel he had something to “hide” and a lot to lose. Yes, white gay singers like Elton John are very popular but John is white not black. Michael would have received a lot of negativity from the black media and community if he was gay. Remember Luther Vandross the “eternal bachelor”. EVERYONE knows Luther was gay but he could not come out BECAUSE in the black community it’s taboo still. There was a “don’t ask and don’t tell” policy for Luther and it’s sad.
Michael is an enigma. For one thing the Debbie Rowe marriage that’s bizarre. Michael married Rowe because he wanted to present to the world an image he was “heterosexual”. Even though EVERYONE knows he did not SLEEP with her.So why would a straight man get “married” to a woman just so she can have his babies as a surrogate?And the strange thing about Jackson is many people believe those kids aren’t even his OWN biological children! Yes Michael had plastic surgery but his DNA is still of a black man yet his children don’t appear to have black heritage.
A straight man would SLEEP with the woman he would not PAY the woman to have his children. Ricky Martin the still “closted” Latino singer is a perfect example of a gay man that should come out. Martin had twins through a “surrogate”. Come on! Martin is a thirtysomething gorgeous man. Millions of women would SLEEP with Martin for free!
Once I heard about the “surrogate” for Martin I knew he was gay. It is well known that gay men go through a “surrogate” to have their own biological children yet NOT have to SLEEP with a woman. And the reason why is because gay men are gay! A gay man does NOT want to sleep with a woman so it’s more complicated for a gay man to have a biological child.
It’s easy for a lesbian because a lesbian is female she can have “children” on her own and get pregnant. Since men can’t get pregnant it’s so complicated for a gay man to have his own biological child.
A straight man would NEVER PAY a woman to have his children he would SLEEP with the woman. I think that’s the real indicator to me that Michael was not totally straight. I am not sure Michael was “gay” because Lisa Marie Presley says they had “sex”. But I don’t think Michael was straight or comfortable in his own “skin” about his sexuality.
I remember when I was “younger” I was in the closet because I had “something” to hide. Let’s be how many gay black male singers are successful in the music industry? I can count none absolutely none. Yes Michael Jackson had plastic surgery but he’s STILL black! I think the issues of race+ sexuality + sexual orientation come into play with Jackson. I can’t take Ian Halperin’s crazy book seriously because it’s all rumours. However, Michael was very effeminiate and I just find it hard to believe a totally “straight” man would be that way.
Thanks Orville. I agree with your take on Jackson. It is unfortunate that gay black men, in particular those in entertainment(or of celebrity) have to completely suppress their homosexuality to be accepted.
This has been true of other ethnicities, such as your example of Ricky Martin. Clay Aiken did come out, but he is white. So did Adam Lambert (very gay & proud). Hopefully more enterainers can do so without fear of prejudice.
Nonetheless, I don’t think ANY male entertainer, regardless of color, would easily be able to “come out” when a huge chunk of his fan base are girls/women. I live in liberal L.A., used to live in S.F. and have always had gay men in my life; my girls’ godparents are a gay couple. But even I would have found it hard to relate to Jackson’s romantic crooning (about girls) if he had been public about being gay. It is just a huge disconnect!
This way, with MJ’s sexuality still an enigma, women (and gay men) can be “thrillered” by his on-stage seduction.
Whoever MJ wanted to or did sleep with changes nothing about his exceptional talent and humanitarianism.
I am interested, though, if you think he may have molested boys. Aside from the Chandler and Arviso cases, there were at least 3 other suits initiated against him (by boys’ families) where MJ paid settlements. In Chandler’s case he slept with the boy for a whole year.
I don’t know if MJ was innocent or guilty. A friend who worked as as private investigator on the 1993 case told me that Michael was “a serial pedophile”. As this man is someone I consider a thinker who does not rush to judgment……I am concerned that there is truth to the allegations against MJ.
This does not mean that Neverland ex-employees or anyone with an ax to grind or motive for profit did not try to take advantage of Michael Jackson by exaggerating or spouting falsehoods. Certainly Jordie Chandler’s father was a slimy character. But does this mean Michael was entirely innocent just because the victim’s father tried to milk the situation for $$$$$ ??
I wonder if we give MJ too much latitude for his being “a misunderstood victim” of the police, media and grifters. If anyone else, a 40something non-celebrity had behaved the way MJ did (his feminine attire, hair, full makeup, grotesque plastic surgery, lavishing gifts and trips on boys (and parents) of poor families, etc. etc.), having serial “sleepovers” in his bedroom with only boys aged between 10-14……..wouldn’t we find this creepy? Would you let your own kids share a bedroom — alone — with someone like that?
My emotions want to believe MJ was innocent of all accusations, but my intellect is on the fence.
I don’t think Michael was a pedophile but I do believe he was a naive man. I feel Michael was a very sensitive, caring, and loving person. According to the Guinness World Records Michael Jackson was the celebrity with the highest contribution to charities. Michael was a great humanitarian.
I don’t know if Michael was gay or straight. I concede that he did have a feminine quality about him. I believe that if he was gay, he didn’t live a gay lifestyle (meaning he didn’t sleep with men, although he may have been attracted to them). I do not believe there is any way that such a superstar as Michael, who was always in the public eye, could hide having homosexual relationships. Thus, I think Michael pretty much led a straight lifestyle, primarily celibate with very few sexual experience with women.
Some people turn gay, ONLY AFTER they’ve been told that they are gay. Being flamboyant and dressing in women’s clothing, doesn’t make one gay. Have sex with men is what makes a man homosexual.
Sometimes ppl that are gay, want others like Michael or Prince to be gay. Can’t a man be effeminate without being gay? Yes. I know plenty of them. They are eccentric, (not the norm) loving, humble, creative (not necessarily flamboyant) fun to be with, intelligent. Jesus Christ was such a man. Never had sex, never been married, loved children, loved ppl, a great humanitarian. By the way, John, his first cousin, placed he head on Jesus’ chest. No sexual anything going on. Why can’t men love without being labeled as gay? Jehovah’s Witness men in Africa walk down the street holding hands. Here in the states, if they did that they would be labeled. Anyway, It is natural to want to love and be loved. If you are a man, the first man that you should kiss is your father. I watch hispanic men, not to mention JW men who kiss their sons all the time and hold them in their arms. A young man needs this. Hundreds of thousands of JW’s that were practicing “sex” with ppl of the same sex, have chosen not to have sex, or to marry ppl of the opposite sex, because they know they don’t desire it. However, they await the time when God will open his hand and satisfy the desire of every living thing. That’s found in the book of Psalms.
Anyone who thinks Michael was not sexually attracted to women needs to watch this video.
He was dancing with a fan and at 0:56 you can clearly see he had an erection. This is not the first time he has been caught on stage having an erection after being with a female either.
Let’s also not forget all the heterosexual pornography they found in his home, magazines and dvds plus an article on how to find the G spot. Tell me what gay man would have straight porn and any interest in the G spot?
He might have been bisexual but I absolutely believe he liked women.
“”Let me break this down for you people and pay attention because I don’t
like doing it more than once. Michael Jackson is thoroughly heterosexual. He does not like men. He does not like boys. He likes women over the age of 18. Shiiiiit, even before he was 18, he liked women well over
the age of 18.
It’s no secret within certain circles that Diana Ross was his first. The poor guy thought he was going to marry her but she @#%$ him over with Gene Simmons and Arne Naess. He was pretty naive back then, so he choose not to see the obvious. Then he was celibate for about 3 years, before becoming involved with a pretty, blond employee of his, an actress from a popular ’80s/early ’90s sitcom, a singer that nobody cares about anymore but was the ish back in the day, some
groupie/secretary, June Chandler (the mother of punk @#$%$ Jordan who got jealous of mommy’s relationship with Michael) and, of course, Lisa Marie.
Lisa Marie was the only one he allowed himself to become more than just
sexually involved with since Diana, that boy was sprung. Lisa Marie,
however, led him to believe they would have a family of their own, but stayed
on the pill anyway because even if she said she was a rebel, the little
@#$%$ didn’t want mommy dearest to get mad at her for having a lil
black child. Mike found the pills, split, messed around with a couple of
other women with the goal of getting one pregnant just to hurt Lisa (he
can be an as.shole sometimes, true) and eventually knocked up Debbie,
which, (if I didn’t love and adore his children and think think they
saved his life)
I would say was probably one of the biggest mistakes of his life. He was never faithful to Debbie after they married, never even wanted to marry her but Mike doesn’t like to break his mother’s heart. He and Lisa continued having sex until 1999 (they weren’t “together,” they were just @#%$), until he met his third child’s mother, fell very much in love with her, but he is his father’s son, so he wasn’t entirely faithful to her, which is why they split up shortly after she found out she was pregnant.
From that time, up until right before these new bullish allegations broke, he was pretty much a dog. No attachment, just sex. He has no time to get attached to somebody and then depressed again after they part ways now that he has his children. I doubt he has time for anybody other than his children and his lawyers now.
There, you have it. Take it or leave it, but it’s the truth. Mike would
hate me for putting his business out here like this, but at least it’s
accurate, unlike all of the other trash going around now. He ain’t my
boss anymore, so he’s just going to have to put up with it.””
From a former employee, Frank Tyson.
I want to thank you Frank for setting the records straight. It is simply horrible that people are so quick to pass judgment. Michael was NOT gay!!!! I truly love Michael and I do not believe any of this garbage that is being printed about him. I do not like the fact that he was playing around, but I can understand. Lisa Marie hurt him really bad; she should have never promised him children. He wanted to be a father very bad. Anyone could see that he truly loved children all children. I feel that Michael was an Angel sent from heaven to bring peace to this evil world. He brought a whole world together; even in death he is still doing this. He has left a legacy that will live forever and ever. There will never be another Michael Jackson NEVER.
MJFan — where did you obtain this quote from Frank Tyson????
Thanks, Minou
As there is no evidence whatsoever that he was remotely heterosexual (or bisexual), why not go with him being gay?
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How many woman are having children on their own, because they don’t find the right partner in their lives, that doesn’t mean that they are gay. And even if Michael was gay, who cares, we love him for his music, for his art.
How many people would say that if we replace the word “gay” above with “heterosexual”? I hear this all the freakin’ time as a gay man from heterosexuals when they tell me they love me “anyway”, or when I tell them of some lesbian or gay celebrity and they respond “What business is it of anyone’s to know who they sleep with?” If I said some flaming white heterosexual man like David Letterman was straight, would the response be “That’s his own private business!!!”? This reveals how unaccepted gayness (and lesbianism) is in North America. There’s gross bigotry, intolerance, acceptance, welcoming, valuing, and celebration. In a heterosexist society, only the last three have any meaning for me that isn’t messed up homophobic or condescendingly liberal. You “welcome” me? Well what if I don’t welcome being in the company of a bunch of heterosexuals? You accept me? But did I ask to be “accepted”, or just be treated like the human being I am?
Michael Jackson, according to the latest biography, was unequivocally gay. I’m just leaping to this conclusion based on the evidence that he NEVER had sex with women, and ONLY had sex with men. Why should that history automatically make him “bisexual? Because it’s easier on North America for us to identify people as “queer” and “bi” than it is to say THEY ARE GAY, or LESBIAN, or SGL?
And IF he had sex with Lisa Marie Presley, or even two or three women, he still could have been GAY. I have slept with two or three women too, and am gay. So let’s get over this need to reject the idea of someone of being lesbian or gay or sgl just because their past behavior, in a thoroughly heterosexist society, is “bi”.
Thanks for asking this, GBCM! I think how we answer, including how I do, shows what our views are about being lesbian, sgl, and gay… and bi and heterosexual too.
I think I said it before, but even if MJ slept w/a couple of women, he could still have been gay. (I say this with authority: I’m female, and 3 men I had affairs with ultimately identified as being gay. Maybe it was me!)
If anyone has seen “This Is It” where MJ sings “Human Nature”, in a portion of it is one of the first times his dance moves appear effeminate. It’s the part where he is wearing a dark suit with pointy shoulder pads, he’s wearing sunglasses and appears extremely thin. Check it out on YouTube.
Hi Minou!
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I think I said it before, but even if MJ slept w/a couple of women, he could still have been gay. (I say this with authority: I’m female, and 3 men I had affairs with ultimately identified as being gay. Maybe it was me!)
Yes, thank you for saying that first statement!!! I personally appreciate it, for what THAT’S worth!! lol
Even knowing how much white male supremacist heterosexism and homophobia factors into all of this, I am so sorry you have had that experience, unless you’re not sorry at all, in which case never mind! But I’ve known heterosexual women quite devastated to learn that their boyfriends or husbands were gay. I’ve known women who were, without knowing why, devastated and neglected because their husbands or boyfriends were gay, and no one but the man himself–and his male sexual/romantic partners ever knew. You did say these were affairs, so I hope you were not damaged by this in any way.
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If anyone has seen “This Is It” where MJ sings “Human Nature”, in a portion of it is one of the first times his dance moves appear effeminate. It’s the part where he is wearing a dark suit with pointy shoulder pads, he’s wearing sunglasses and appears extremely thin. Check it out on YouTube.
This gets tricky. Because what is considered “effeminate” is so culturally bound. (Just look at the freakin’ upper crust white het male Brits for goodness sakes! lol) And what gay men do to reveal and not reveal their gayness goes WAY beyond whether or not they demonstrate effeminacy, however that is defined. (And of course plenty of effeminate men are completely heterosexual.) Gay and straight men, in my experience and through speaking directly with them about this, admit to modifying their behavior towards being more butch, in order to not appear the stereotype of “the effeminate gay man”. (And of course there are other stereotypes of gay men.)
And let’s not forget MJ wore make-up beyond that needed to deal with the deeply unsettling problem of vitaligo. (One of my ex’s, a man of color with brown skin, had vitaligo. He chose not to cover it up at all, even though it was readily apparent that he had it, if the looker knew what vitaligo is. And my ex was not a celebrity in the glaring, harsh spotlights. (I have no judgment AT ALL about Michael lightening or paling his skin, through whatever means, to get it to match with the patches effected most by vitaligo. And to all the white jerk men who have said so: NO, that didn’t EVER make him white!!)
So, for example, MJ’s own crotch-grabbing, which is culturally a heterosexual male thing to do in public or in performance. How many gay and bi men do or did this in performance in order to appear more heterosexual? In this way, males’ own crotch-grabbing can be seen as “a sign of being gay”. All masculinist or butch male posturing can been seen this way as well. As a way for gay men to not be THAT (stereo)type of a gay man.
And I think so many of MJ’s lyrics reveal his gayness. Just listen to him singing “Ben”, for example. For me, it’s one of his most beautiful vocal performances, just outstanding! And a gayer love song was never sung with more feeling, imo. (Yes, I know it was written about a boy and his rat… but surely THAT isn’t what MJ was drawing on when singing that song.)
Julian—
to reply to your questionas to whether I was devastated by my gay boyfriends coming out… yes/no. One I was totally smitten with, and he cooled off relationship because he was moving back to Chicago. I was initially crushed, we were the best of friend, but at the time he was repressed and had never been with a man. Much later he came out, at my urging, since I instinctively knew he wasn’t facing his identity. He and his husband are still good friends, and godparents to my children! Another guy was just a fling and is still a friend. The last was a misogynist and I left him!
I agree with your post entirely, with exception of your opinion about “Ben”. Michael was very young, not even a teenager when he sang “Ben”, so I doubt he consciously was singing a gay love song.
It is interesting to me that so many fans want to believe MJ was heterosexual, despite suggestions to the contrary. Aside from what we know of Michael’s style, makeup, hair, gestures, and the fact that he had children with surrogates, Michael hung out with gay men. Arnold Klein, Michael’s “best friend”, is gay, and he apparently spent Xmas w/him and his corpulent office manager, Jason Pfeiffer, who made the allegations of having a gay affair with Michael. Director Brett Ratner, one of Michael’s best friends, is also gay. Michael also had in his employ someone (forgot who) who had been a gay porn producer (which MJ claimed he did not know about).
Now, correct me if I’m wrong, but hetero men don’t usually hang out with gay men? My husband knows many gay men, but they are usually family members 🙂 or couples we know together. Do unmarried hetero guys spend time socially with gay men?
I’m glad you weren’t more hurt than that. And am SO GLAD you ditched the misogynist, hopefully sooner than later!
A primarily heterosexual woman friend of mine was once with someone who was her first boyfriend… you know this story isn’t going anywhere good!!… and she remembers him lying on top of her with an erection stating, “I think I’m gay.” Yeah, so much for caring about a woman’s self-esteem! (Oh, and that wasn’t a veiled story about me!! lol
I sort of did the opposite: I told my (when we were teenagers) girlfriend that I’d already had a boyfriend (the year before) and that I wasn’t heterosexual. (I wasn’t gay or bi identified then either.) She wanted to get to know me better, and we were together for five years. Then she tried to set me up with her gay best friend. We’ve remained friends ever since. And she married a heterosexual man who she knew from around that same time. I think he’s kind of a loaf, myself, but apparently he loves her in ways that are meaningfully loving to her. And I’m glad she wasn’t stuck with a caring but gay boyfriend (moi) for longer than five years! 🙂
I am completely in agreement with you, and didn’t mean to imply (but, um, uh, obviously DID) that MJ was consciously or in any way knowingly singing “a gay love song”. No. I might have done the same thing at his age–well, you know, if I had things like talent–and would have been clueless as to what might come to surface later. Hell, I didn’t even realise Queen was led by a gay singer until YEARS after hearing Freddy Mercury’s awesome vocals. I mean really, Julian: talk about DENIAL.
I recommend just listening to the audio, here:
http://popup.lala.com/popup/432627077918663850
But if copying and pasting that URL into the website bar, then there’s also this, where he’s lip-syncing that great vocal performance:
http://vodpod.com/watch/1880266-michael-jackson-ben-1972
if you want to know the truth, none of this is really nobody’s business. Leave this between God, Michael Jackson, and whoever Michael Jackson CHOSE to share his sexual life with.
I wish the truth of heterosexuality were required to be as private as heterosexuals say they want lesbianism and gayness to be. When I speak of some celebrity’s heterosexuality no one EVER says to me “You know, that’s really a very personal matter and ought not be discussed by anyone other than the person and their sexual partners”. But whenever a celebrity’s lesbianism or gayness is made visible to the public, to help those of us who are not heterosexual know we are not alone, and so we get to have can have more than two gay and lesbian role models, heterosexuals tell us “That’s really nobody’s business”.
First, if Michael Jackson, as an adult, slept in the same bed with boys, that IS our collective business; it’s my business as a child who was sexually abused by heterosexual men. Second, if he was gay, and slept and/or had sex primarily with adult men, why shouldn’t we know that? Why does that have to be kept secret, as if there’s something shameful about it?
Wouldn’t that information empower LOTS of gay boys all over the world, who revere him, to feel that much better about themselves? Wouldn’t it serve to reduce homophobia among heterosexuals, and maybe take some of the sting out of the stigma of being “not straight”?
Sometimes I wish there was a social ban on heterosexual public displays of affection. I really think heterosexuals should really stop pushing all that ungodly stuff in queer folks’ faces.
And Sheila, the next time anyone speaks to you of anyone, particularly about a celebrity who gets married, divorced, or “happily involved with” some other celebrity who isn’t the same sex–the next time you see on television and in movies any displays of heterosexual behavior (let’s keep in mind, it’s not heterosexuality that’s the sin, it’s acting on it), please, please remind them “it’s nobody’s business”, ok?
As a gay man, I’d appreciate it.
.hi michael jackson ik ben herlen me pa en ma is gek op je ik ook en me broer ook.
.bedankt voor je liet 5 december liev herlen.
Honestly, I think it doesnt fucking matter whether he was gay, straight, bisexual, white, black, no matter what it was you’re questioning. Michael Jackson was the King of Pop and regardless, no matter how much he ended up going through, he was AMAZING. & You can’t say he didn’t do the best of his abilities and make it out for much longer than any other Pop Artist in the Industry would have will all the court trials and all of the discouragement, the beating when he was a child, he was an amazing person altogether. I love Michael. I just wish he could have lived longer.
R.I.P Michael Jackson, Always loved, Never forgotten.
i dunno
Concordo con mjfan,
amava le donne tutto il resto e maldicenza, cattiveria.
I love Michael
Se sei ancora tra noi…….
come qualcuno ha pensato ma non credo proprio.
Va bene essere geni ma organizzare la propria morte mi sembra eccessivo anche per te, no non riusciresti a passare inosservato, ti auguro tanta felicità…….
i love u michael.
we miss u lot.
u r always live in our heart’s
I don’t think Michael was gay. Coming from being raised very religiously, it is very difficult to pursue open sexual relationships, if you have been taught otherwise. They tend to make you very uncomfortable, because of your upbringing. That said, I believe he may have had sexual encounters, but it is evident that he still believed strongly in family and marriage – which is why he chose to marry Debbie Rowe, though their relationship was far from “ideal.” I think his first marriage to LMP was legit and he really loved her and when it fell apart, he was devastated, as Debbie spoke about in her interview. He saw that relationship as his chance to have the normal family life and with it taken away, he no longer chased after it for fear of the emotional scar. I think inwardly he desired it, but outwardly, it was too much of an emotional risk. It is, however, very evident that he continued to see LMP – for years following. Which says he wasn’t gay. But, I also think after Debbie, he was extremely private in his relationships. And unless people come forward, we’ll never know. I just hope he had a smidgeon of happiness somewhere, cause he was a beautiful person.
Kikib: Michael didn’t “choose” to marry Debbie Rowe. He did it to please Katherine who would have been offended by him having children out of wedlock. And as far as seeing his relationship with Debbie as “his chance to have the normal family life”, have you really read much about Michael & Debbie Rowe? Debbie acknowledged that she gave Michael children as a “gift” (and he said the same… “a present”), they NEVER lived together, they never had sex! She came to visit Prince and Paris when they were very little (and for photo ops at Neverland), but was never introduced to them as their mother. The kids did not know they had a mother. That is a “normal family life”?
All that is clear about Michael is that he loved kids, wanted very much to be a father, became one, that he had issues with his gender identity and was sexually ambiguous to the world.
I also think that even if MJ had deep-seated sexual feelings towards men/boys/who knows, he put certain women on pedestals (Katherine, Diana Ross, his “girlfriends”, Princess Diana) and loved and emulated women. The women he was attracted to were strong, confident and accomplished, but this at the same time is extremely intimidating on a sexual and emotional level. It’s like he couldn’t win…. any woman who was not a power broker like MJ might love, adore and be devoted to him, but unless she was rich & had her own career, MJ would more than likely have mistrusted her motives. And most of the rich, powerful and attractive women he encountered were somewhat narcissistic in their own right. It would have been difficult to for him to have any relationship w/a woman given that.
Despite MJ’s generous heart and desire to please the world, he seemed incapable of giving and compromising in a one-on-one relationship. He surely was narcissistic on a personal level (his clothing, appearance, shopping sprees) and necessarily, a relationship with anyone would be about HIM and not mutual give and take. (read “Moonwalker”. Michael calls himself a “rolling stone”, unsure he could ever settle down.)
Still on the fence thinking he was gay. LMP may have been the only female relationship he really had. I had a long-term boyfriend, we were “desperately in love”, and he later decided he was truly gay.
I think you misunderstood my response, I was saying his marriage to Lisa was a chance at a real family life. He chose to marry Debbie, regardless of mom’s opinion, there’s always the option to say “no.” He abused drugs, which I’m sure his mother wouldn’t approve of. I totally agree with your post, but from reading other interviews of Michael’s I sense that he was homophobic. He was extremely narcissistic and so the constant revisions to himself. Arnie Klein said his goal was to take the audience’s breath away – his face was a work of art. Gay or straight I still think in his 30’s he was sexy, sexy, sexy! LOL!! I would’ve given him children for free – although I woulda been like 20!!!
Arnie Klein is full of shit. Michael never wanted his face to be a work of art, he wanted it to be a face.
Debbie has never denied having sex with Michael. Four people have said that Michael and Debbie had sex, Michael being the fifth one to say it. They might not have had sex to conceive the kids, but they were having sex.
Also, take note of the porn he kept during his marriage to Debbie. Out of nowhere for 3 years he gets Plumpers, Juggs, Over 50 and 44 Plus….
@rockforeveron-
If Michael was having sex with Debbie Rowe, then why after their wedding did Michael give her “a peck on the cheek” and retire for the night to a separate room?? (do the research, this has been corroborated by witnesses.)
Why would he use other men’s sperm to inseminate Debbie if they were having sex? Absolutely NO hetero man does this unless there is some genetic abnormality the man is worried about passing on to his kids.
Debbie never lived with Michael, she went to Neverland for photo ops with the babies/kids and everything about Michael’s relationship was based on friendship/business: his desire for kids and her to help him and for alot of money! Michael bought her a Beverly Hills home (which she sold to buy a ranch outside L.A.), and gave her a large settlement and I believe monthly stipend for a long time. It was business!
None of this means Michael was necessarily gay but he certainly did NOT have sex, EVER, with Debbie Rowe.
Debbie would never deny this as she surely signed confidentiality agreements that might extend beyond the grave.
@Carrie, on Aug. 8:
You raise a great point. As someone in the LGBT community too, I remember when I knew I wasn’t heterosexual, but due to all the social and family pressures and all the damn stigmas that are attached to those who identify as LESBIAN or GAY, I and most folks take their time deciding whether to come out as such. So it’s probable he didn’t IDENTIFY as gay, which is not ruling out the possibility that his primary sexual interest, since a child, was males. IMO, there’s little doubt that’s the case.
He spent SO much time with males, and so little time with females. That doesn’t, in and of itself even speak to one’s sexual orientation, however. I know women who are separatist who are not necessarily lesbian, but they do prefer the company of women, exclusively. And TONS of het men spend almost all of their time with men.
The difference with MJ is that he spoke about his life in his music, and if you listen to it with this question in mind, a lot is revealed. Not that he was gay-identified, but that he struggled a lot and had a lot of unresolved issues going on.
Childlike or not, he slept with boys. He admitted that and the case with the boy in the famous Martin Bashir interview shows a proclivity to attachment to boys that did, by so many accounts, involve sexual elements and boundary-crossing themes, such as the introduction of alcohol and the use of pornography.
He secretly had books of images of naked males. What male heterosexuals do you know who do? No one I know!
And as to whether he had homosexual adult relations, it’s NOT true that only he can know that. The men he had sex with would also know it. Having said that, I quite agree that it is odd that this would only surface after his death. As someone said above, with media being as unscrupulous as it is, you’d think this would have “come out” in the tabloid press ages ago. He died at fifty, after all, way too soon. But old enough to have speculations about him being gay run rampant for decades, and I don’t ever remember such speculations being made.
To the homophobes: being suspected of molesting boys is not stating whether someone is or isn’t gay. I was sexually abused, as a male/boy, by not one, but THREE heterosexually-identified men who lived their lives AS heterosexual men. Married, kids, the whole deal.
Look at Meredith Baxter–married to men several times and she’s a lesbian, and has been with the same woman now for over a decade. What was she when she was with the men? Heterosexual? No. Not in a heterosexist society that compels people to behave heterosexually, and threatens you with a very virulent form of ostracism and homophobic violence if you’re not.
I’d always thought of MJ as asexual, myself. But it’s entirely possible, with his resources and means of protecting his privacy, that he had homosexual encounters with men and did, on some level, know he was gay. What he did or had with LMP and Debbie Rowe doesn’t mean ANYTHING as to his sexual orientation, as the Meredith Baxter case shows us very well.
For me, the issue is those who would say him being gay is “none of our business” or is somehow the social equivalent of finding out that John Phillips raped his daughter Mackenzie, and continued an incestuous relationship with her for years. THAT’S messed up, abusive, harmful, and wrong. Being gay ISN’T any of those things!
So if his being gay, or having had same-sex loving, romantic, or sexual relations with MEN is none of our business, then neither is what he did with women. So all of you above who insist on offering up his relationships with LMP and DR as “proof” of something (that it so obviously is not proof of)–why don’t you believe THOSE relationships are none of our business. It’s pretty clear he never had sex with DR. Obviously kids as white as his kids are didn’t have a medium toned Black man as their biological father. And even if he did make a go of a heterosexual marriage with LMP, if you think that tells us he was straight, or even bi, well, I got plenty of lesbian and gay friends who would tell you otherwise.
MOST lesbian and gay people, due to heterosexism, make a go of trying to be heterosexual. That’s practically A SIGN of being queer, if your private life appears to not have any overt signs of heterosexuality.
@ kikib, on saying his face was one of his works of art. I think that’s really messed up and insensitive. He was, by all accounts, even some of his own, addicted to plastic surgery, as many people are, and was compelled to remove any similarities of his father’s face from his own, due to being so abused and used by his father. That, added to lightening his skin (not just on his face) due to vitaligo is a pretty desperate situation, not a freely chosen artistic one. His art was is his music and his dance, not on his face.
Julian— I agree with so much of what you say. You sound exactly like the kind of gay man I used to fall for (tuned into people, not black & white (sorry to make a pun!) about people’s sensibilities). However, I disagree that because Meredith Baxter is now with a woman that this defines that she is a lesbian. Perhaps that is her essence, but quite possibly she is bisexual and happened to fall in love with a woman after years of relationships with men. Having a lesbian long-term relationship does not negate the feelings she may have had for the other men in her life.
As example: I would not rule out that, after 18 yrs of marriage, I will hook up with a woman, or with another man. I had a couple of affairs with girls when in my 20s. What does this make me…. hetero and “adventurous”? Bi? Secretly a lesbian or doesn’t want to deal with it? I enjoyed the women, and the men I was involved with for different but equal strength of feeling.
Lastly, according to Arnold Klein (a source you may/may not trust), Michael did view his face as a “work of art” and he was forever striving to make himself more beautiful. To us it was self-mutiliation after a point, to MJ it was trying to achieve sense of aesthetic perfection.
@ Minou
I truly believe each one of us has to define ourselves as we see fit. And so I’d say you get to define as bi or hetero, or later as lesbian if you end up with a woman in a long-term relationship.
What I was saying about Meredith Baxter wasn’t my conjecture. It’s certainly not for me to define any woman’s sexuality! What I was referring to was how SHE identifies and how she understands her past.
I know many people who, due to compulsory heterosexuality were with people not of the same sex for most of their lives, maybe with one person or many. But deep down they knew something wasn’t quite fitting. And then when, finally, they met the person they fell in love with of the same sex, it all felt complete.
Given that that’s how Meredith Baxter describes it, and given that her experience is common among women and men who are not hetero or bi, I fully stand by her account of her own life.
That’s why I agree no one can say whether MJ was “gay”: because even if he preferred sex with men, that doesn’t mean it’s how he identified. THAT truth was his and his alone.
We also have to keep in mind there are plenty of non-het folks who don’t have sex with anyone, due to where they live, family homophobia/lesbophobia, fear of losing the love of their children, of social/economic discrimination, of being ostracised and stigmatised as [all the things lesbian and gay people are presumed to be that we are not, or that we are but so are het people]. And our lack of having same-sex sex doesn’t make us not gay or lesbian. Lesbianism, in many cultures and communities, doesn’t mean you have sex with women, necessarily. A lot of us don’t have sex because we’ve been too traumatised by it in the past.
I’ve not had “sex” with anyone for almost a decade. And I’m gay. I don’t go to synagogue but I’m Jewish.
So I respect people defining themselves, and we also always must be aware of what social forces there are that shape what we are allowed to say about ourselves. For folks with endorsement deals, and fanbases, “coming out” is risky on those levels as well. So it’s no wonder that so many actors are in the closet, but are, in their own private lives, totally out.
James Dean actively sought out sex with men, had relationships with men, also with at least one woman, Liz Sheridan. Three people (Bill Bast, Jonathan Gilmore, and Liz) have written their accounts of their time with him. He got out of being drafted by stating he was homosexual. That doesn’t mean he was. And it doesn’t mean he wasn’t. To see how convoluted the whole “speculation game” gets, read the personal life and issues about his sexuality on the James Dean page at Wikipedia. It becomes clear that whoever tells the story has some investment in it being told a certain way. But even Liz Sheridan acknowledges he had sex with Rogers Brackett. But Bast, who had deep feelings for him, doesn’t accept that “relationship” as legit because he thinks Rogers was simply using James.
There’s also speculation about a man in his early life being sexual with him. He was fixed up with Pier Angeli, and while that may have been romantic, there’s no clear evidence it was sexual, except for one account of someone overhearing them having sex. Their public life was, by many accounts, arranged by Hollywood studios, to make sure the public wouldn’t catch on to all the rumors of Dean being “homosexual”, as he was not too secretive about having sex with men. Angeli left him for Vic Damone. What does this all tell us?
Mostly it tells me that we live in a virulently and dangerously homophobic and lesbophobic society, such that if someone is famous, they have to weigh very carefully all the risks involved in coming out. Given the bigoted, erroneous view that gay male = child molester, can you imagine if MJ HAD come out as gay before all the tabloid stuff came out about him sleeping with boys?! He has plenty of reason to keep stuff to himself. I know of famous actors who are secretly (but actively) lesbian and gay, but I’m not going to name them here. That’s their call.
Again, the issue is why do people have such deep personal investments in MJ being heterosexual? What’s wrong with the other options for his life? Why the stigmas?
Julian, I know it is none of my business but why haven’t you had sex in almost a decade? Is my question too personal does this relate to religion your celibacy?
Not at all, in the least, due to religion. I’ve written about this recently on my blog. Here’s the link:
http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2009/12/compulsory-sexuality-and-asexual.html
“Compulsory Sexuality and Asexual Existence” is the title of the piece.
I have no deep affiliations with religion, from childhood onward. And despise the Puritanism of this society.
I haven’t for the best possible reasons: I don’t want to, and don’t at all desire to. (I can’t think of two better reasons than that!)
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Thanks Julian. You’re definitely the gay guy I would’ve fallen for (nice Jewish boy!).
I think people have “deep personal investments” in MJ being straight because he exuded such powerful sexuality on stage that, for the straight world, it is frightening, probably distasteful to imagine his hip undulations, crotch grabbing and dry humping (dance moves lying on the floor in “The Way you Make me feel”), etc., as a metaphor for sex with other men and not women. The lion’s share of his fan base was young-to-baby-boomer women. Yes, straight and gay men appreciated him too, but most of the swooning fans were love-crazed girls.
I think that even in 2009, it is still too threatening for most people to accept that a gay man’s singing and sexual dancing can seduce them. Freddy Mercury was an amazing performer but his style was not erotic in so much as it was extravagant and exhibitionistic. Other gay perfomers (Ricky Martin, as example) have a bubble-gum, teenage crush appeal, or Adam Lambert, with a Goth-showmanship, but they do not perform with a dangerous sexuality. Michael’s sexuality on stage was…. dangerous!
Yes, Minou!! He was one Bad, Dangerous, Thriller. Some would even say he was Off The Wall.
I like your analysis. I think there’s something especially erotic about someone who doesn’t, in some ways, seem to be a sexual person. He was a man of so many paradoxes, and people don’t like paradox here, I find. I think it might be different in other cultures. Here, for me in the U.S., we like things really literal. We want to know what we’re dealing with. Are ya with us or are ya against us?!!? Isn’t that the U.S. battle cry? Well, U.S., a little of each is my answer.
As has been written about so many times and so many places, it was his boundary-blending persona that entranced so many people. I’ve often wondered how heterosexual men “felt” when watching him. And whether they would let themselves even be conscious of that. Not to pigeonhole all hetboys. I know plenty of them who acknowledge–without worrying about their “manhood”–that they find some men very attractive. I watch SYTYCD, and I marvel at how unusual it is for men to allow one another to speak openly about how erotic men can be, especially when dancing! Even the out gay white judge has to feign some level of “sexual attraction” to the women dancers, and has to play down his attraction to the men. But why can’t Nigel say “He was HOT!”
I’m not sure how I felt about MJ in terms of this. He was certainly attractive to me before the surgery went too far. He was a beautiful child. I don’t think I ever had sexual feelings for MJ, actually. I saw his self-choreographed movement as aesthetically brilliant and masterful.
And it’s so funny you mention those elements… that are so clearly sexual in gesture. I don’t remember them, except the obvious crotch-grabbing which sort of became a signature move, not that there weren’t plenty of other crotch-grabbers on the scene soon enough, including Madonna. I guess I don’t find that many people “sexy”, which gets to Orville’s question to me above!!! lol
What I feel very strongly about is that MJ was a survivor of LOTS of sexual abuse, and a lot of it wasn’t the stuff that is “called” sexual abuse by our society. But being in a room while your older brothers are f*cking women they don’t know, and having your father take you to strip clubs when a boy… that’s sexual abuse and would be enough to turn many people away from many forms of “adult sexuality”.
His biggest mistake was to isolate himself from people who would and could say no to him, and let him know if anything he was doing was messed up. All those yes-men around him: accomplices in his death, I say.
I must be hopelessly out of it, Julian, but what is SYTYCD?
Don’t know if I ever really felt “sexually” towards Michael, either. Personally I don’t get aroused by someone in a video, on TV or film (it’s got to be in the flesh!). But I could admire MJ’s sexiness, much as one admires a beautiful painting or enjoys a symphony.
Let me ask you, and any other gay men here: Do you find any / certain women, on a cerebral or physical level, “sexy” without the desire to have sex with that person? Perhaps I am in a more asexual period of my own life, but I can find any number of men or women “sexy” on a more detached and appreciative level.
Thanks for your post. Well said.l It’s a breath of fresh air to read intelligent bloggers.
@Minou
LOL: SYTYCD is a Fox TV show (this coming Tuesday and Wednesday night is the season finale) that is also the best dance show on TV, by far. That blob of letters stands for “So You Think You Can Dance”. If you have a chance, catch this coming week’s finale: you’ll see some awesome talent. No celebrities on that show: just amazing young dancers looking for their big breakthrough, doing everything from various incarnations of Hip Hop to lyrical jazz to disco to Contemporary to Broadway to cha cha to quickstep to the Viennese waltz. The six people left are all… have I said it enough times yet…. amazing (Ellenore, Russel, Jakob–OMG), and it’s VERY appropriate on a thread about MJ that I should mention that show. They honored him in several ways earlier this season, after his passing.
On to other matters raised:
When on Larry King Live, former close young male friend of MJs, now grown up, Corey Feldman, when asked about MJs “relationships” with boys, said something to the effect of “Now is not the time to get into that. Tonight is a time to remember his greatness as an artist.”
That told me all I needed to know about the rumors. I believe MJ crossed the line in several ways, possibly very overtly. I think when a man’s sexuality is so repressed and oppressed, distorted by childhood sexual abuse and gross exploitation and physical abuse from his father, due to his entitlements as a man, he is prone to cross lines and harm others. (A different dynamic but similar is at work with Catholic priests.) This is what happened, I believe, to some boys at Neverland.
That doesn’t, for me, make him any less talented or great as a performing artist. But like you, I can’t overlook that and pretend it wasn’t there. (I am a survivor of child sexual abuse myself.) One day Corey will possibly speak about what he remained silent about that night. And I’m glad he was silent about it then. It was utterly tasteless of LK to ask CF that question at that time.
I find almost all women beautiful but not a lot of men beautiful. For me it’s all about the level of humanity, the depth of soul, the presence of being. So Audre Lorde and James Baldwin are BEAUTIFUL to me. It has nothing whatsoever to do with what pornography or advertising or Hollywood sell as “sexxxy”. For me, that’s just anti-erotic and boring as hell, because it’s so 2 dimensional, and about acting not being authentic. Authentic being with sound interpersonal and social ethics and commitments as oppressed people to working toward liberation… that’s “sexy” to me. And that isn’t at all gender-specific in my case.
@Orville
And Neil Patrick Harris and Ellen DeGeneres and Rosie O’Donnell…
I think Patricia Hill Collins has the best analysis on this. Black people in the U.S. are already so marginalised, especially women. This explains why so many women like Angela Davis could not come out way back when. She was already on the political edge of not being listened to as a Black, female, Leftist radical. Audre Lorde broke ground for so many women. Alice Walker came out also. But those are exceptional women, in so many regards.
See this post for more on Collins’ work, “The Prison and The Closet”:
http://radicalprofeminist.blogspot.com/2008/08/prison-and-closet-racism-and.html
As for African American gay singers, as you note, there was Luther Vandross, but let us not forget the ground-breaking Little Richard (who, after becoming Christian identifies as “ex-gay”), and the fabulous totally out gay drag disco star Sylvester!
And African American lesbian singers:
Ma Rainey, Bessie Smith, Sweet Honey in the Rock, Tracy Chapman
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Fu all. Who gives a rat’s ass! For g-d sakes Im Bi. Jeeze who gives a shit for what He is.
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‘ off and Leave MJ alone My heavens! U cant judge some one for how they look, how they dress, how they talk, How they act! you can assume something that you aparently think. If he is gay or bi who gives a shit!
I think many, many Black teenagers and youth who are gay males would give a shit, because knowing this would give them support.
And I think the consensus here is “it is not really knowable” because Michael himself never made public statements about it.
But if he had sex with men, and did so willingly and enjoyably, I, for one, would like to know that, but not as speculation, but rather as a truth he declared. And it is possible he declared that truth to people who were close to him. And perhaps he never did.
What a bunch of morons. All you need to do is read what he wrote..his songs, his books..listen to candid interviews. Listen to what his family and friends had to say. He was a straight, normal man who simply wasn’t chasing skirts 24/7 so idiots think, Gee, he must be gay. He even wrote a song called Tabloid Junkie where he remarks about the jerks who decided he had to be ‘homosexual’ because he kept his life private. He’s dead now. Are you gossipmongers and tabloid junkies all happy? You are ultimately the reason he couldn’t cope with the world and get a good sleep without medication. Have some respect for his children and leave him alone already.
My sentiments, exactly!!! Well said.
He has made many public statements about his sexuality.
And yes, he “declared” it. If bragging about his sex life was declaring it.
Do you think his porn was reflective of his sexuality? Or he just browsed 1800 vaginas and their G spots for purely artistic values?
Lynn, go read the coroner’s report. He did not have multiple plastic surgeries like the tabloids suggested. They found evidence of three. One minor face lift and one nose change that had to be improved upon later in his life as his skin aged. That’s it. No change to his chin, jaw, eye area..nothing. Those changes in appearance were age related and thinning of the skin due to medication to hide the vitilogo. He never denied the nose job. Addiction to painkillers is rampant in North America, and not isolated to homosexuals..so why decide that he had to be gay because he had a problem with addiction? And reclusive means he’s gay? Get a grip! Liz Taylor is reclusive. Is she gay? MJ often said that if he’d lived in Taylor’s time, he’d have proposed marriage to her. How does this mesh with your theory?
Julian grow the hell up. You actually say..”Childlike or not, he slept with boys”. You claim to have listened to his music..analyzed it. You have done nothing of the sort. I grew up listening to the Jackson 5. Between my brother, my wife and I, we have one of the largest collections of their music, and Michael’s, probably in the country. I have all books written about him and by him. And I know which ones are unsubstantiated and which ones are based on fact. Below is a blog you need to read. All your ‘information’ is the tabloid crap, Michael sang about. Stop polluting comment boards with garbage and do some honest homework. MJ was no more gay than Ghandi and wasn’t interested in sleeping with children. Did you know that the first alleged victim has been in contact with the Jacksons to set the record straight? Wait and see what happens and then hang your head.
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Nice. I guess the moderator didn’t like my wife Alexis’ comments and removed them. Julian, you sound like a full fledged hater now. Time to sell your soul on another board. You know nothing my friend. Time to move on.
I’m outta here.
MJ’s wives claimed that the did sleep together. Lisa Marie is clear that their relationship was normal. Has anyone read the interviews he had with the rabbi? He didn’t want his DNA continued because of the fear he’d pass vitiligo to his children. The family has confirmed that Omar is his son, so apparently he didn’t have any problems with heterosexual relationships. Give the man a break for once!
@Alexis:
I find your comment grossly heterosexist and oppressive to lesbian and gay people of all colors.
If he were gay he’d be “normal” too. And identifying someone as gay is no more shameful or wrong or bad than identifying someone as heterosexual, which you feel quite comfortable doing to someone I’ll wager you never met: Michael Jackson. Calling him heterosexual? Give the man a break for once!
@Alexis — Omer Bhatti is NOT Michael Jackson’s son. Read the recent article by Firpo Carr, who was the Jackson family’s official spokesman during MJ’s 2005 trial. Google: Firpo Carr, Los Angeles Sentinel. Firpo contends that Joe Jackson, in his vague affirmation that Bhatti was the “4th child”, was just playing with the media. Probably to keep the public’s interest up in all things Jackson. A great media ployl
No matter whether or not Bhatti was his “secret son”……. MJ loved him like a son, and he is still close with the family. Do you think if he was his real son that MJ would have NOT included him in his will? Really.
Lastly: Debbie Rowe never had marital relations with Michael. She admitted as such. This was an arrangement of convenience to give Michael children, and she was well paid for this.
Remember that after the 1993 allegations against him, Michael could no more adopt children than fly to the moon. His only way to have children, since Lisa Marie was not on board with his desire, was to engage a surrogate.
Whether MJ was straight, bisexual or gay, having kids via a surrogate is a method often employed by straight (or gay) couples who cannot otherwise have kids. Debbie was a known and trusted quantity, and happy to oblige with the $$$ she would receive.
“I also think that Michael Jackson resented his African American features in favour of European features.” I don’t think he resented his features he resented his dad who beat him and he did not want to look like his dad. I wish he stopped the plastic surgery after thriller 1982 – 1984 he was on the from cover of Ebony 1984 wearing a ceremonial military navy blue jacket and white pants and he was taking off his hat . One word GORGEOUS! OH YEAH! And on the Thriller album wearing white suit holding the tiger sexxxxy. That’s the M.J. I’ll always remember
I agree.
So damn true, jettt! So damn true.
There is no evidence he was or not, but it doens’t matter, because he was very mentally stable (more than most people), and the greatest human that ever lived! =D
I like the way this comment group respond….Michael Jackson was Gay!, the evidence is just so big, you can’t say no….MJfiles has some good stuff…and the Melvin Belli / Michael Jackson / Liberace, information is getting bigger, as people come out, [some times, out of the closet] and talk….It is very huch like what happened after Rock Hudson and Liberace died.
This is all so silly. Let me say that if he was gay, fine by me. What I cannot tolerate are untruths where he is concerned. Michael was not gay, he was not bi-sexual. He was a straight african-american male who was deeply unhappy with his appearance due to child abuse. He looked in the mirror and did not see himself the way that the rest of the world saw him. He trusted children because he saw more corruption in adults at a very young age than most of us will ever see. He believed he needed to create a persona for the media because it was ingrained in him at a very young age. While he acted like Peter Pan, the real Michael was quite different. He was spiritual, extremely literate and wanted to help people. He also had lots of girlfriends, just not the ones that he paraded around for the public to see. It’s all there, one only needs to do their homework 🙂
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honestly how i see it michael jackson forever will be the king of pop he is the best entertainer in the world and most-known he was a terrific man that was misunderstood by the population of negative people that always put him down in certain situations like his children,his sex and love life,his face,his apperance,actions,and also his type of living that would of made him weird but he isn’t strange he is just misunderstood to the world and he is not gay he is a straight man because they are alot of females that came out saying he was a sexual man that had desires like any other man like for instance he would make out and yes!! even have sex and all those girls that came out were stephaine mills,shana mangatal,lisa marie,joanna thoame, and others so don’t judge by what you see judge by how you know the person honestly people today is fucking fucked up assholes that can’t let this man r.i.p and bout time the world celebrate his music and career instead of his life damn losers get a life king of pop forever oh!! and f.y.i michael also did say in his time of living on earth with us that he was not a gay man but had gay fans and embrace them as people too so yeah just wanted to share my thoughts
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So what do the folks on this blog think of the 2nd time around “confession” by tubby Jason Pfeiffer (Arnold Klein’s officer manager) that he and Michael Jackson had a torrid love affair?
Pfeiffer “outed” their alleged affair last year and it got no press. Now he did it again, on Extra, and Michael’s fans (I included) blasted Extra for the trashy story. This goes not to the issue of whether or not Michael was gay, but whether anyone he did sleep with should disclose this publically — FOR MONEY — knowing Michael was a private person. Pfeiffer claims to have been Michael’s “soulmate”. I want to vomit.
Wondering where that most insightful poster named “Julian” is? He and I posted alot a few months back. Are you still there?
What does everyone think of the recent “revelations” by Arnold Klein, Jason Pfeiffer and Michael’s Bodyguards regarding his sexual misadventures? Is any of it true, d’ya think?
That Jason and Klein stuff was crazy, they even received death threats from the fans. It is a bad image of Michael fans,who are seen like crazy, delusional and homophobic.
I believe not all Michael fans are homophobic, the problem is Michael always denied being gay, so anyone who contradicts what he said is the evil for the fans. And you know that many fans believe in all that came out to his mouth. (there are even fans who believe Michael had just two plastic operations…)
But I saw also homophobic comments like:
“Those who said that Michael was gay are HOMOSEXUALS”
“I don´t want Michael to be gay”
“I´m not homophobic but I can´t imagine him with a man, ewww”
Besides the fact they didn´t threat the women who claimed to be his girlfriends (though I hear Joanna Thomae was threatened)
And so on…
About the Jason stuff: even people who believes Michael was gay don´t believe him because they believe Michael would like more a handsome and well toned man. Besides, when Jason first appeared in the Sun last year, he claimed that he knew Michael by telephone and dated him in his car. In late April, he claimed other version.
The Jackson family was mad at Klein instead of Jason, because Klein suposedely was a friend of Michael for more than 25 years.
About the bodyguards: they seem nice and just said positive things…but a body language doctor, Lilian Glass, wrote an article in her site claiming that they were unconfortable during the interview, specially when they talked about the girlfriends. According to the doctor their body language show also that they were angered for not being payed. Besides, they answered some questions in their facebook and they said that they didn´t taslked about girlfriends but that they said he just knew two friends and it was the media who talked in girlfriends…but they talked really in girlfriends!! They also seem somewhat unconfortable when asked about the women Michale liked…
Other thing that I found suspicious is the fact they talk more against Ian Halperin than other really devil people who really was evil for him.(Bashir, Dimond, Sneddon) and it looks like they even don´t know who he is, but they read what the fans wrote about him and it seem he just want to please the fans. They seem a little fake for me.
LOL
You really know nothing… the BG were “uncomfortable” because they had to defend MJ against being a pedophile. Ask me if any of my friends are pedophiles and I’ll be “uncomfortable” too.
MJ didn’t even have 2 girlfriends in his last 2 years… there were more women than that, but “girlfriends” is a polite word for them… fuckbuddies would be more accurate… see if the fans could handle that info.
Even Diane Dimond has said she has never found any evidence he’s gay. The prosecution tried to make him gay… they failed and had to haul out his hetero porn and try and use that as evidence of his gayness. That was how desperate they are.
Did you know a doctor for the prosecution reviewed Michael’s medical files and said he only had a few nose jobs and the rest were reconstructive based on his discoid lupus? No, I bet you didn’t. Haters seem to love to ignore the evidence that contradicts the image they’ve created about MJ. They really want to believe the media actually has been unearthing great truths about Michael. It’s pretty funny.
You seem to be trying so hard to make him gay… bless you. LOL!
STOP Talking about a dead man. Don’t matter if he is gay or not.
no he was not a gay
Michael Jackson is not gay,The only thing that michael is, is the king and gave us all the talent and best dancing and singing any human could do. Michael is such a caring,giving,loveing person and I miss him its so sad of what happened to such a wonderful person but it was his turn to leave us and go to the otherside to perform and do the things he missed out as a child he will be there singing and dancing when we all meet with the man Michael who made us enjoy music and dancing and just growing up with him and his music.love you Michael. GIA
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I would like a gay man opinion about that and I like that Michael fans didn´t interfere, because as fans, they aren´t very objective and have already their ideal of Michael on their heads. So I know already their opinion about that subject.
A french magazine published an article about a rumor in which Michael allegedy want change his sex. They interviewd the transsexual Tonya Paris,a Michael´s fan,they asked him (her) about her own operation, what she felt and they asked her about the rumor concerning Michael. She said that she wouldn´t surprised if it was true, because she saw that Michael wanted to change his sexual indentity, she could see it in his hair, face, body…for her Michael was a not operated transsexual.
There were also an interview to a Dr. Mark Brownstein, a cosmetic chirurgian in LA, who claimed that Michael visited him three years ago and the last time was six months before his death. I searched for that doctor as a curiosity, but the only Mark Brownstein in LA I found was an eyes doctor.
Or the man doesn´t exist and the interview was fake or I´m researching the wrong way.
So Russel Brand, Marilyn Manson are pre op transexuals?
Yours about sexuality and gender are incredibly bizarre. Long hair doesn’t make you gay or a transexual.
I´m sick at how many fans talk about “truth” or “lie”, like they know everything about Michael´s life…that´s ok if they believe or don´t Michael was gay, but they can´t take what they believe as a fact!
I´m researching people who was close to Michael, talked with some of them and there are possibilities that he was really gay. I´m talking about people who didn´t talk in front on cameras.
If it is the truth so it will be known one day.
I believe Michael was straight, even if he was gay I would still love him the same as I do now. There is no proof he was Gay, yeah some Tabloids told lies saying he was spotted in Las Vegas with a man and other B.S but most of the thing Tabloids said about MJ was a lie.
I’m straight and I wish those lies about me would stop I want peace
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Hi! It’s Emilia again. I was looking through your site and saw this piece about Michael Jackson. So I thought I’d show you an article I wrote about Michael Jackson on the same subject: Who was he?
http://cynicsunlimited.com/2009/06/28/who-was-he-%E2%80%93-the-question-of-michael-jackson/
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